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Post by Wildfire275 on May 1, 2017 11:08:51 GMT -5
Okay I was really not being rude at all. I just pointed this out because I waited for midnight to post and believed I had gotten the item. My own computer time is a little weird so I followed the time on my phone which I know is accurate. I'm sorry if I came off as stand offish but I'm sure you can imagine my disappointment to see I didn't get the item due to someone posting before midnight especially when I had taken precautions to make sure my post wouldn't be before. I really don't think it's in your right to insult me or swear at me.
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Post by mrsteph on May 1, 2017 11:09:36 GMT -5
I'm changing things up because there isn't a way to precisely prove that the people who posted early did so because of a forum error. I hadn't considered the possibility when I wrote the original post; now that I've become aware of that, I will take steps in the future to prevent something like this happening again. I understand that when it comes to figures situations like this can be very aggravating. However, I can't think of an alternative to this action that's fair, specifically when viewed from existing evidence (like time stamps). I'm not really sure what to say here; all I can really say is that I understand both arguments, but this is the action I've decided to take based off of what I said in the original post. I have to step away from the computer now, but I'll be back tonight to field any questions. However, I will say that my decision here is most likely final; it would be too confusing to be changing reservations back and forth. Also; Yes you may; I'll put you down for those. Thanks for your understanding. I'll just take Godoka and djinnwolf99 can have 999 sorry about the change ^^; And i understand! Unfortunately i went vy my computer time at it was midnight when i posted but i'm fine with whatever you decided  Thanks again. That works! Let me think this over; because it's becoming clear to me that the majority here seems to be in favour of keeping the reservations as they were (I was actually expecting it to be the other way around). I do really have to leave, though, so I'll leave it at that for now, and when I get back I'll make a big post explaining exactly what's going on. Sorry for the confusion, guys! I'll clear this up one way or the other. |
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 11:14:04 GMT -5
Okay I was really not being rude at all. I just pointed this out because I waited for midnight to post and believed I had gotten the item. My own computer time is a little weird so I followed the time on my phone which I know is accurate. I'm sorry if I came off as stand offish but I'm sure you can imagine my disappointment to see I didn't get the item due to someone posting before midnight especially when I had taken precautions to make sure my post wouldn't be before. I really don't think it's in your right to insult me or swear at me. THAT THE POINT!! Everyone waited until midnight wheter they loooked on their computer's time, their phone, the moon your complaining over 11 seconds. |
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Post by BewareTheirThorns on May 1, 2017 11:18:05 GMT -5
I don't know if it's my place to say anything but I agree with Mrsteph, it's to avoid confusion because some people would wait to make sure that their post is counted as valid, they want to follow to the rules that mrsteph listed. If she says that a minute early posts are valid then I think that's something she should include in her thread next time ^^ Again, I hope I'm not being invasive... That's just my opinion... she herself opened reservations at 11:59pm, plus One person thinks that no one else followed the rules.Im just say 11 seconds or even a minute difference should not mean a hold gets canceled considering their computers would've told them it was midnight. (meaning they followed the rules to a T.) im just saying ONE person should not have to ruin it for anyone just because they couldn't get what they wanted. Considering this was not a problem last year, is it only because of all the madoka stuff that ONE person is being a little *** about 11 seconds sorry guys I just wanted to post my 2cents on the topic. I do understand why everyone's mad about the reserves and whatnot but the rules did state midnight may 1rst. The users who posted after midnight did wait until 00:00 to make their reserves out of fear that their reserve requests wouldn't be valid, so to have people who posted before midnight get their reserves is also unfair to hte people who waited. The seller ultimately has the final say in who reserves what but she did state 00:00 may 1rst, and because users were racing to be first, the rules should apply accordingly. Those who posted on the thread after midnight should be the reservation holder. I definitely understand why you guys are mad though :/ its a sticky situation |
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 11:19:53 GMT -5
I didn't even have any reserves, so I also have nothing to gain from it, but punishing everyone else over 11 seconds is an extremely bad business tactic. ikr same here i have no holds but to punish the vast majority of people just because on one person's OCD on the forum's timestamps even though we live in EST. NO one should have to be punished just because on a 11 second difference compared to 5 mins. it isn't right and not fair even though many people are going by their computer or phone time the forum could be a minute off for some, and accurate for other. We should not be blamed for following the rules. |
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 11:21:42 GMT -5
she herself opened reservations at 11:59pm, plus One person thinks that no one else followed the rules.Im just say 11 seconds or even a minute difference should not mean a hold gets canceled considering their computers would've told them it was midnight. (meaning they followed the rules to a T.) im just saying ONE person should not have to ruin it for anyone just because they couldn't get what they wanted. Considering this was not a problem last year, is it only because of all the madoka stuff that ONE person is being a little *** about 11 seconds sorry guys I just wanted to post my 2cents on the topic. I do understand why everyone's mad about the reserves and whatnot but the rules did state midnight may 1rst. The users who posted after midnight did wait until 00:00 to make their reserves out of fear that their reserve requests wouldn't be valid, so to have people who posted before midnight get their reserves is also unfair to hte people who waited. The seller ultimately has the final say in who reserves what but she did state 00:00 may 1rst, and because users were racing to be first, the rules should apply accordingly. Those who posted on the thread after midnight should be the reservation holder. I definitely understand why you guys are mad though :/ its a sticky situation but she only specified EST (Eastern standard time) not the forum timestamp. as when reservations would be opened. so could you blame people who were watching on their devices for midnight??? |
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Post by Djinnwolf on May 1, 2017 11:24:11 GMT -5
Okay I was really not being rude at all. I just pointed this out because I waited for midnight to post and believed I had gotten the item. My own computer time is a little weird so I followed the time on my phone which I know is accurate. I'm sorry if I came off as stand offish but I'm sure you can imagine my disappointment to see I didn't get the item due to someone posting before midnight especially when I had taken precautions to make sure my post wouldn't be before. I really don't think it's in your right to insult me or swear at me. I think everyone was using a phone or their computer to get the right time, but to say reservations are invalid because of 1 minute or 11 second is a real stretch. Some would think it is because you didn't get what you wanted. |
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Post by pumpkin on May 1, 2017 11:25:13 GMT -5
she herself opened reservations at 11:59pm, plus One person thinks that no one else followed the rules.Im just say 11 seconds or even a minute difference should not mean a hold gets canceled considering their computers would've told them it was midnight. (meaning they followed the rules to a T.) im just saying ONE person should not have to ruin it for anyone just because they couldn't get what they wanted. Considering this was not a problem last year, is it only because of all the madoka stuff that ONE person is being a little *** about 11 seconds sorry guys I just wanted to post my 2cents on the topic. I do understand why everyone's mad about the reserves and whatnot but the rules did state midnight may 1rst. The users who posted after midnight did wait until 00:00 to make their reserves out of fear that their reserve requests wouldn't be valid, so to have people who posted before midnight get their reserves is also unfair to hte people who waited. The seller ultimately has the final say in who reserves what but she did state 00:00 may 1rst, and because users were racing to be first, the rules should apply accordingly. Those who posted on the thread after midnight should be the reservation holder. I definitely understand why you guys are mad though :/ its a sticky situation It really is... |
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Post by barabear on May 1, 2017 11:26:13 GMT -5
sorry guys I just wanted to post my 2cents on the topic. I do understand why everyone's mad about the reserves and whatnot but the rules did state midnight may 1rst. The users who posted after midnight did wait until 00:00 to make their reserves out of fear that their reserve requests wouldn't be valid, so to have people who posted before midnight get their reserves is also unfair to hte people who waited. The seller ultimately has the final say in who reserves what but she did state 00:00 may 1rst, and because users were racing to be first, the rules should apply accordingly. Those who posted on the thread after midnight should be the reservation holder. I definitely understand why you guys are mad though :/ its a sticky situation but she only specified EST (Eastern standard time) not the forum. as when reservations would be opened. so could you blame people who were watching on their devices for midnight??? Why are you even making a big deal over this? You were in no way involved in this at all and you said yourself that it's up to the seller. Why are you putting your self in this when you were in no way effected by it. You're just looking for something to fight about so go take your rage out somewhere else. NOT TO MENTION you were complaing about how she didn't follow the rules, meanwhile she did! She posted on midnight exactly and that is what the seller said to do, so you are just making a huge fuss and making people feel bad for no reason. |
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Post by Djinnwolf on May 1, 2017 11:28:23 GMT -5
she herself opened reservations at 11:59pm, plus One person thinks that no one else followed the rules.Im just say 11 seconds or even a minute difference should not mean a hold gets canceled considering their computers would've told them it was midnight. (meaning they followed the rules to a T.) im just saying ONE person should not have to ruin it for anyone just because they couldn't get what they wanted. Considering this was not a problem last year, is it only because of all the madoka stuff that ONE person is being a little *** about 11 seconds sorry guys I just wanted to post my 2cents on the topic. I do understand why everyone's mad about the reserves and whatnot but the rules did state midnight may 1rst. The users who posted after midnight did wait until 00:00 to make their reserves out of fear that their reserve requests wouldn't be valid, so to have people who posted before midnight get their reserves is also unfair to hte people who waited. The seller ultimately has the final say in who reserves what but she did state 00:00 may 1rst, and because users were racing to be first, the rules should apply accordingly. Those who posted on the thread after midnight should be the reservation holder. I definitely understand why you guys are mad though :/ its a sticky situation Mrsteph said she opened reserves at 11:59 according to the time stamp. So technically those reserves should count |
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 11:29:52 GMT -5
but she only specified EST (Eastern standard time) not the forum. as when reservations would be opened. so could you blame people who were watching on their devices for midnight??? Why are you even making a big deal over this? You were in no way involved in this at all and you said yourself that it's up to the seller. Why are you putting your self in this when you were in no way effected by it. You're just looking for something to fight about so go take your rage out somewhere else. NOT TO MENTION you were complaing about how she didn't follow the rules, meanwhile she did! She posted on midnight exactly and that is what the seller said to do, so you are just making a huge fuss and making people feel bad for no reason. because like i said one person shouldn't have to ruin it for everyone else who followed the rules just like them. The one buyer made it seem to the seller that everyone else just jumped the gun early when that may not have been the case. because of one person making a big deal over 11 seconds, everything has become very confusing for the seller and everyone else who followed the rules and waited till midnight are being punished for it. BTW i may not have holds with the seller, but like everyone else i waited till midnight like everyone else and so did my friends, so technically i am involved in this whether i have holds or not. |
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Post by chitogekirisaki on May 1, 2017 11:33:35 GMT -5
Sorry, not to add to the disagreement here, but I did post when the title was already changed to "Reservations open." I even checked beforehand, as like everyone else, just wanted to make sure it was ok to post ;O Sure it was a couple second off (I believe it was changed 20-30 seconds before the 12) but I was just going by the title change. Also, I do think it's unfair to cut people off at 11 seconds because I know very well my phone will always be a couple seconds (or even minutes) late.
I apologize for putting my 2 cents in, I of course will take what ever decision is made!~ But maybe next time, make precautions about having a specific time of when to post? I was afraid this was going to happen but decided that I would just wait for an "official" post saying it was open but when people started posting and the title was changed, I thought I posted at an appropriate time and like everyone as well, didn't want to lose my chances on reservation.
EDIT: Also, I apologize if I was wrong about this, I'm 90% sure I posted after the title change but if that's not the case then feel free to retract my statement~ I believe you also said that you opened reservations slightly before 12 so again, I thought that was the "official" go to and posted within that iffy timeframe.
EDIT 2: I guess I just feel kind of like I'm being punished for actually trying to follow the rules. And out of everyone, I'm missing out on reservations since the people before me already resolved their issue so I'm the only one left with nothing. For a second there, I felt kind of guilty that I put everyone before me in that position of getting cancelled for something I didn't think I even did wrong and took precautions of making sure I was allowed to post for reserves.
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 11:39:54 GMT -5
Sorry, not to add to the disagreement here, but I did post when the title was already changed to "Reservations open." I even checked beforehand, as like everyone else, just wanted to make sure it was ok to post ;O Sorry to quote you here, but i think that this should be the easiest way to determine holds for next year. mrsteph should have it so that she makes a post saying "Reservations Open" in which case any posts before that would be invalid, and anything after would be valid. It is just a suggestion but i think this is the only fair way as people couldn't complain then because the seller themselves have opened the reservation without the whole issue of timestamps or computer times. |
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Post by Wildfire275 on May 1, 2017 11:44:52 GMT -5
The reserve honestly doesn't mean enough to me to warrant this whole thing. If people wanted to kindly talk about it I probably would have been fine giving it up. But the real issue I have is that I am not okay with people being rude to me. I said nothing wrong and yet I have people swearing at me, insulting me, calling me names. I'm always okay with polite and friendly discussions and I am very understanding if people are willing to talk to me about an issue. But I am truly upset about other people on this forum being so rude to me when I had believed this was a decent community. You keep saying I'm OCD (which I am not and frankly that's insulting to people who truly suffer from the illness) and upset about not getting what I want. But this whole thing only started when the seller decided to agree with me, it seems like you're just upset about not getting what you wanted and decided to insult me instead of talking about it.
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Post by shadowlycan on May 1, 2017 12:09:50 GMT -5
The reserve honestly doesn't mean enough to me to warrant this whole thing. If people wanted to kindly talk about it I probably would have been fine giving it up. But the real issue I have is that I am not okay with people being rude to me. I said nothing wrong and yet I have people swearing at me, insulting me, calling me names. I'm always okay with polite and friendly discussions and I am very understanding if people are willing to talk to me about an issue. But I am truly upset about other people on this forum being so rude to me when I had believed this was a decent community. You keep saying I'm OCD (which I am not and frankly that's insulting to people who truly suffer from the illness) and upset about not getting what I want. But this whole thing only started when the seller decided to agree with me, it seems like you're just upset about not getting what you wanted and decided to insult me instead of talking about it. ok just to be clear 1. i have no holds with mrsteph so the fact that i am upset about not getting what i want is ridiculous 2.you opened this can of worms by complaining about 1 buyer who pretty sure saw a "reservations open" post by the seller and went ahead. (you didn't even mention the other buyers who were ahead of the one buyer that you have presumed went too early). 3. i have no complaints about a reasonable discussion, and I am sorry i addressed you as OCD it was wrong of me (ill admit it) but for you to be nitpicky about 11 seconds, is really unresonable in itself, especially when the seller said this was not an issue for them. 4. Mrsteph is a great seller with awesome product every year, at great prices. which is why she is so popular. I have no problems with the way she runs things on her forum and find this method a cool change to the way this is done compared to other sellers. I will be 100% supportive of whatever decision she come up with, and will continue to be a dedicated buyer from her table. 5.I would like to send out a sincere apology to Mrsteph for cluttering her wall with this. in the heat of the moment you are trying to figure out why everyone's holds are being cancelled when they were following the rules. Perhaps I stepped out of place when I stated my initial post, but I wanted both sides to be heard fairly before you made a final decision. 6.breathe in...breathe out... Namaste |
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