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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 20, 2018 20:57:38 GMT -5
This panel idea centers around how to not be a butt face. But seriously, conventions and cosplayers have started to get a bad rep due to many different reasons so this panel would focus on talking about how to treat other people, primarily in a convention setting. We'd talk about how to behave and things you can do to make sure you and everyone around you has a fun time at the con!
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Post by crownowa on Jan 20, 2018 21:01:10 GMT -5
The Convention Etiquette type panel has been around for ages. What new cosplay-specific topics would you be covering?
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 20, 2018 21:20:42 GMT -5
I was told by someone that the panel had gotten merged with another in 2015 and that it hadn't really existed before that? But if it's still around, I would focus specifically on cosplay. There are many topics we'd be able to cover like how to behave around other people cosplaying from the same fandom as you (tips could be not pushing people out of photoshoots and trying to be more inclusive to newer cosplayers) as well as online etiquette between cosplayers before the con (not cutting down people or telling them the wrong times for photoshoots on purpose). The panel can go into how to go about interacting with people in a more comfortable manner, instead of coming off as abrasive or unwelcoming. In the time leading up to the panel, I'm sure we can come up with more than an hour's worth of material, plus the audience engagement that we would get
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Post by crownowa on Jan 21, 2018 10:03:06 GMT -5
I think the panel was merged a couple years ago.
With the separate proposal of discussing Toxicity in Fandom, I don't think it woukd make sense to have separate Cosplay Etiquette and Convention Etiquette (Fingers will make the final decision of course). I wouldn't suggest spending much time on forum etiquette, since I think real life interaction is better to focus on. What do you think?
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 21, 2018 19:05:28 GMT -5
I think Toxicity in Fandom is focusing more on the sociology aspect than tips or things people can do to improve their interactions. As for the talking, I think touching on online etiquette between cosplayers is a big thing that people often overlook. There is all that time that leads up to the con and many people still say things online during that time that can be hurtful to others and impact their con experience. I'd definitely like to focus mainly on real life interactions but spending a bit of time on online might be good.
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Post by crownowa on Jan 21, 2018 19:29:43 GMT -5
It woukd be okay to spend some time on online etiquette, but if one of the other cosplay panels is going to discuss this, I wouldn't suggest spending more than 5-7 minutes on it.
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 21, 2018 19:46:45 GMT -5
Agreed. It's not a huge part but it might encourage a discussion with people in the audience since that's key to this panel. It's very much a 'If you were in this situation, what's the best course of action?' type panel. Typically though, cosplay panels only cover the actual act of cosplaying (sewing, wigs, makeup, preparation, ect) and not so much the interaction between cosplayers.
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Post by xshedevilx on Jan 25, 2018 9:49:39 GMT -5
This was combined with Cosplay Body Positivity in 2016 I believe. Was hard to focus on both and we didn't have much of a turn out but now that people are becoming more aware, and more open, I think it'll be more successful.
We focused a lot on 'say this, not that' if you have to comment. 'Ask, don't tell.' How to behave at a photoshoot, asking for photos, saying 'thank you', cosplay is not consent (as it STILL needs to be said), how to ask for advice. How to handle the 'wow cosplay fail' comments you will hear from afar. How to prepare for possible lewd comments. How to be supportive. How to be critical without being rude. ect. ect. (I'm rambling)
Online could be an entire discussion on its own, I'd leave it till the end if possible, because a lot of people are willing to talk a big game behind a screen but not in person.
We managed to really hit home with a young cosplayer in 2015, as she was with her parents. She was happy we embraced the topic and spoke outwardly about it. I still think it's a relevant panel, even for the few who show for it, because it shows bad behaviour is NOT okay even with just the panel title.
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 26, 2018 21:32:43 GMT -5
I think the reason I thought of this panel was because (and I hope this doesn't sound bad) I've never really struggled with my body or how people react to it when it comes to cosplay. What has been a theme is people being straight up rude when it comes to some comments as well as general 'how to behave' at a con. Many people don't understand that just because you see someone from a fandom you really like, doesn't mean you can assault them. It's not free game because we're all at a con and share a common interest. If this sounds like the Cosplay Body Positivity panel, then I'd love to help but I feel like I would be out of place in such a lineup. I do struggle with my physical appearance in some aspects and the typical response is 'Well you shouldn't because you're so skinny'. I'm not really aloud to feel bad about myself ^^ Sorry if that came off as a rant but I just wanted to explain my reasoning for keeping them as separate panels entirely.
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Post by xshedevilx on Jan 29, 2018 12:26:07 GMT -5
I think the reason I thought of this panel was because (and I hope this doesn't sound bad) I've never really struggled with my body or how people react to it when it comes to cosplay. What has been a theme is people being straight up rude when it comes to some comments as well as general 'how to behave' at a con. Many people don't understand that just because you see someone from a fandom you really like, doesn't mean you can assault them. It's not free game because we're all at a con and share a common interest. If this sounds like the Cosplay Body Positivity panel, then I'd love to help but I feel like I would be out of place in such a lineup. I do struggle with my physical appearance in some aspects and the typical response is 'Well you shouldn't because you're so skinny'. I'm not really aloud to feel bad about myself ^^ Sorry if that came off as a rant but I just wanted to explain my reasoning for keeping them as separate panels entirely. This is why we were adamant that is be separated, but alas, we were unsuccessful in our pleas and thus the combined panel. We truly didn't get a chance to separate the two, thusly, and most of it ended up being about your skill level and body rather than fandom reactions and general rudeness. And there is a difference. There are those who are rude for the sake of being rude, and others who claim to 'critique' but, are just butts. And yes, still a lot of people who are overly obsessed with "insert fandom here" so they believe acting in character to another character, regardless of WHO they are seems appropriate even when it isn't. Body positivity would focus on body and mind, whereas this is more general. I hope they can separate the two. I'm trying to find more people interested in positivity for this year but a lot of people still aren't open about it.
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Post by crownowa on Jan 29, 2018 12:44:56 GMT -5
You're free to sign up under separate panels, but it is still under Fingers' discretion to combine the two again this year.
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