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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 21, 2018 19:57:22 GMT -5
I know this is a panel typically reserved for Yaoi North and I might very well be stepping on toes by proposing this but I think it's something that should be discussed. The panel has been restricted to the 18+ crowd due to it's location but crossplayers come in all ages. It's typically the younger cosplayers that need the most instruction and the most direction when it comes to crossplaying safely. I'd like to propose it as not an 18+ panel, but rather a general information panel that talks about more than just flattening one's chest. There are cosplay choices to consider, makeup that is very much a huge part of it as well as safety tips that should very much be touched on. I've done crossplay panels at large conventions (recently at Youmacon) with large success and I think AN might benefit from putting it in the general programming. Honestly, I just want this topic to be available to everyone and for cosplayers to feel more welcome to attending, as opposed to thinking that they have to be into yaoi or over the age of 18 to attend. But if crownowa or Fingers thinks otherwise, please feel free to delete this thread  I won't take any offense to it or anything like that. |
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Post by crownowa on Jan 21, 2018 20:07:58 GMT -5
I'm not opposed to this panel. Its been acceptable for those under 18 to crossplay for years, and its not inherently sexual or 18+. If this panel is approved, I'm not sure if you'd be able to discuss breast binding, but there's definitely a large makeup aspect to crossplaying.
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 21, 2018 20:14:41 GMT -5
There are ways to talk about binding one's chest without making it sexual, it just has to be talked about in a way that isn't blatantly talking about 'boobs'. But I'm really glad to have support on this!
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Post by crownowa on Jan 21, 2018 20:29:43 GMT -5
Ah yes, gender neutral chest binding. There's been a small flood of memories of characters of both sexes who chest bind / have bandages around their chests (e.g. If they're wounded). D'oh.
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Post by crownowa on Jan 21, 2018 22:46:35 GMT -5
When I chatted with Fingers about this idea, I thought it was general crossplay (my mistake for not reading the title properly). Is this panel idea only for female to male, and why couldn't it be for ftm and mtf?
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 22, 2018 10:26:07 GMT -5
This is only for female to male, mainly because there's so much to talk about that it barely fits into a panel that's an hour long. There are different points entirely when it comes to doing either one. If we were to make it for both, there would be no time for questions and all topics would only be touched on very briefly that it wouldn't be very informative.
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Post by direkitty on Jan 23, 2018 21:50:37 GMT -5
As someone who really likes to crossplay and struggles with makeup (just ugh... in general) I would love to attend.
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Post by xshedevilx on Jan 25, 2018 9:41:31 GMT -5
This panel will be VERY much needed. Every year I host the makeup panel and there are ALWAYS questions about crossplaying and we rarely have a frequent crossplayer on board. The Makeup Artists can give details about contouring and fake beards but the detail of costume and portrayal would REALLY add to it.
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Post by Gryvon on Jan 30, 2018 10:15:49 GMT -5
We already run this over in Yaoi/Yuri North, so PM me and I'll make sure you get in. The Crossplay panels (we've separated them into Kings for FTM and Queens as MTF) have never been 18+. They're always open to all ages. Just because something's in the YN space, that doesn't automatically make it 18+. The majority of panels aren't.
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Post by direkitty on Jan 30, 2018 21:57:11 GMT -5
We already run this over in Yaoi/Yuri North, so PM me and I'll make sure you get in. The Crossplay panels (we've separated them into Kings for FTM and Queens as MTF) have never been 18+. They're always open to all ages. Just because something's in the YN space, that doesn't automatically make it 18+. The majority of panels aren't. Query Gryvon - Meta question here - Why are these panels part of Yaoi North? I crossplay (I am not sure what "King" means here?) for usually one outfit a year - and I would love to know more about makeup and the like but I would never look at the panel track at the Sheraton for something of this nature because crossplay isn't related to Yaoi, it's a cosplay thing. Was the 'general cosplay track' overloaded at one point and Yaoi North picked up some extra panels? |
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Post by crownowa on Jan 30, 2018 22:04:49 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, Fingers didn't balk at the suggestion of a second crossplay panels outside of Yaoi North, but registration hasn't opened and there are multiple criteria to consider before this panel could be approved, if it does get approved.
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Post by Gryvon on Jan 31, 2018 10:15:24 GMT -5
We already run this over in Yaoi/Yuri North, so PM me and I'll make sure you get in. The Crossplay panels (we've separated them into Kings for FTM and Queens as MTF) have never been 18+. They're always open to all ages. Just because something's in the YN space, that doesn't automatically make it 18+. The majority of panels aren't. Query Gryvon - Meta question here - Why are these panels part of Yaoi North? I crossplay (I am not sure what "King" means here?) for usually one outfit a year - and I would love to know more about makeup and the like but I would never look at the panel track at the Sheraton for something of this nature because crossplay isn't related to Yaoi, it's a cosplay thing. Was the 'general cosplay track' overloaded at one point and Yaoi North picked up some extra panels? These panels are part of Yaoi North primarily because the people who started running these panels were staff of Yaoi North and because the content fell under the LGBTQ umbrella. (The people who created the panels are trans.) I have no issue with these being moved to the cosplay track where they'll get more exposure. I don't think we need to do two duplicate panels so if it goes to the cosplay track, we won't have one in the YN track. |
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Post by crownowa on Jan 31, 2018 10:17:52 GMT -5
Woukd it make sense to move the Crossplay panel to the cosplay circuit and split MtF and FtM into separate panels?
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Post by eclipse_cosplay on Jan 31, 2018 15:50:16 GMT -5
Woukd it make sense to move the Crossplay panel to the cosplay circuit and split MtF and FtM into separate panels? Absolutely! I would very much be on board with this idea. |
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Post by Fingers on Feb 9, 2018 12:21:27 GMT -5
We have an issue with splitting topics, but I’m afraid there would be practical benefits to keep this girls only.
Submit separatly, and we’ll do the relevant merging transfers.
In the unlikely event someone needs to be on both, permission granted.
Gryv ? Want mtf if we take ftm ?
We can type.
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I won't take any offense to it or anything like that.
