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Post by Keith will fite the sun on Feb 9, 2018 22:39:58 GMT -5
This isnt gonna be an 18+ panel since the fanbase is very diverse and there are a lot of younger fans. i know we didnt have it last year but i enjoyed going to the panels in previous years and talking about everything black butler related such as fan theories, characters, ships, the canon story etc.
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Post by crownowa on Feb 9, 2018 23:18:22 GMT -5
I haven't watched / read Black Butler. What would make it 18+, compared to other shows like Attack on Titan that don't require 18+ panels?
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Post by Djinnwolf on Feb 9, 2018 23:59:52 GMT -5
I haven't watched / read Black Butler. What would make it 18+, compared to other shows like Attack on Titan that don't require 18+ panels? That last chapter in the manga is all you need to read. That scene was pretty 18+ in my opinion. I can only imagine the fan theories we could discuss
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Post by teefsh on Feb 10, 2018 2:12:22 GMT -5
Hmm I'll have to finish reading it now. That said I would love to be on this panel. It was a favorite of mine and considered a panel for it once before. Now that it's done it would be better to get on that now. If you guys will have me of course.
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Post by Keith will fite the sun on Feb 10, 2018 23:11:28 GMT -5
I haven't watched / read Black Butler. What would make it 18+, compared to other shows like Attack on Titan that don't require 18+ panels? eh i know there is black butler after dark and i dont think we had this panel last year (not including the after dark). it wasnt around last year so i thought id make it clear that this one isnt gonna be related to black butler after dark.
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Post by siyrean on Feb 11, 2018 0:32:08 GMT -5
Hmm I was the one on the panel like 5 years ago that tried to explain the two Ciels theory, it might be fun to rejoin the panel again seeing so much of it pan out- though my first words might just be ‘Moth$&@#$*ing called it’ and walk away dramatically *makesnotetowearcosplaywithcape*
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Post by Djinnwolf on Feb 13, 2018 0:13:10 GMT -5
Hmm I was the one on the panel like 5 years ago that tried to explain the two Ciels theory, it might be fun to rejoin the panel again seeing so much of it pan out- though my first words might just be ‘Moth$&@#$*ing called it’ and walk away dramatically *makesnotetowearcosplaywithcape* There was just a loss of words for the last few chapters. All I am saying is if there is a black butler panel I hope this is talked about. Also I though the BBAD was more for shipping characters and other non canon/ story related topics. I could be wrong...I haven't attended the panel in a number of years
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Post by siyrean on Feb 13, 2018 3:36:36 GMT -5
black butler after dark is a completely different panel- they just have fun with ask a character type stuff, they don't go into actually story discussion. What's being suggested here is a panel on black butler, which we've also had in the past, to discuss the anime/manga. i haven't been on it the last 2 years but for 2 years before that i was present, and the room was always packed and we had a great time but while the panel was in the evening. i don't think it was ever 18+. The newest manga revelations aren't actually worse than what we saw in Black Butler season 2 with what happened to Alois, so i'm not sure it would really warrant a 18+ rating.
*spoilers*
--Spoilers and 18+ content have been deleted--
that aside, black butler does have very dark themes, and i feel that because of the fujoshi fanbase and peoples proclivity to simply roll their eyes at anything fujoshi without giving it further thought, has more to do with people thinking Black Butler is just another typical girls all ages funimation anime, without there being much more to it than that. ....aaannddd i've just talked myself into signing up to this panel cause the manga is by far my favourite manga of all time, while i'm completely ambivalent to the anime because there's such a stark difference between the two, and i have many emotions on this topic.
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Post by crownowa on Feb 13, 2018 13:36:51 GMT -5
Please be careful of what you say on this forum, which is open to people of all ages. I've removed your first two paragraphs because of the graphic nature and because of our spoiler policy. Please do not repost what I deleted.
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Post by siyrean on Feb 13, 2018 14:05:24 GMT -5
Ok, now I'm confused on your spoiler policy. After the made in the abyss topic i went back to double check and, if it's legally available in english, it's not a spoiler. Am I incorrect? Also not sure what is 18+ then, because that was basically a content warning- how do we warn of the content, without warning of the content?
edit: you know what, never mind, it's not worth arguing over. but i do think discussing wether or not the panel should be 18+ is something that needs to be hashed out.
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Post by crownowa on Feb 13, 2018 14:23:49 GMT -5
Ok, now I'm confused on your spoiler policy. After the made in the abyss topic i went back to double check and, if it's legally available in english, it's not a spoiler. Am I incorrect? Also not sure what is 18+ then, because that was basically a content warning- how do we warn of the content, without warning of the content? My apologies if it is already in English, but based on the context of your post, it sounded like content that recently came out in Japan, since I don't believe the manga has ended yet. Nevertheless, it wouldn't have made much sense for me to remove the more "adult" sentences and keep the rest. If this panel gets approved, you aren't barred from discussing the more gruesome parts of the series without needing an 18+ rating, but you'll have to keep who's in the audience in mind (you'll have to keep the panel PG if there are children who stay for the whole panel). This panel may need an experienced moderator to toe the line if there's still any confusion or concern.
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Post by siyrean on Feb 13, 2018 14:26:30 GMT -5
ok thank you that clarifies a lot.
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Post by crownowa on Feb 13, 2018 14:33:42 GMT -5
You're welcome.
Keep in mind how much someone being assaulted or attracted to men / women a lot younger than them drives the story or character development. If its important to the story, or is something you don't think the majority of fans noticed, you can discuss it, depending on who's in the audience. (I hope this captures what you wanted to say in a more PG way, hey, that rhymes).
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Post by shadowlycan on Feb 14, 2018 11:49:44 GMT -5
wasn't the black butler panel always been 18+. I know they never had one last year, but i believe the first 2 years it ran, it was always an 18+ panel. I can't remember though if it's third year it was an all ages panel due to the fact that there wasn't terribly much to talk about in terms of 18+ content.
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Post by Keith will fite the sun on Feb 14, 2018 19:04:41 GMT -5
wasn't the black butler panel always been 18+. I know they never had one last year, but i believe the first 2 years it ran, it was always an 18+ panel. I can't remember though if it's third year it was an all ages panel due to the fact that there wasn't terribly much to talk about in terms of 18+ content. the years I’ve went to it, it wasn’t 18+ and honestly since there are a lot of younger fans I wanna keep it open for anyone who wants to listen
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